Couple of things
- I'll be absolutely honest, the 'McMansion' proposal brought up by David Lynn has me conflicted. On one hand, I'd be somewhat upset if someone told me I couldn't build my house on my property how I wanted it, primarily because my neighbors weren't crazy about its aesthetics. However, on the other hand, as the story notes this is a problem that is statewide. My grandmother lives in an older neighborhood near the front gates of the Augusta National Golf Club, and the house directly across from hers was bulldozed and replaced with a four-story plantation-style structure whose only purpose is to host clients during Masters week. Not only is it an eyesore, but, as others in the neighborhood follow suit due to a lack of proper regulatory oversight, it is unnecessarily altering several things over there, including property taxes, land use dynamics, etc. So I see both sides of this thing, and let's hope we can get a good policy in place which accommodates design freedom, but also protects the neighborhoods.
- Hopefully, we're progressing on this Sunday Sales thing. I'm not alone in my optimism as the Athens Banner-Herald says the same thing.
- One of the rumors going around regarding States McCarter's resignation, and mentioned in Blake's story, is that Tuesday's 9-1 vote by the Athens-Clarke County Commission to table a request for a developer to turn a few parcels of land at the front of Green Acres into an office park was the tipping point. McCarter was the lone dissenter of the bunch, and at a previous meeting, had argued that the office park plan wasn't perfect by any means, but was the best plan available. That, if the park plan wasn't approved, there was a very real chance the next proposal to come their way would be one that would drop a mini-subdivision in that slot. So I think two things to come away with from that specific issue ... first, the vote was tabled, so it isn't officially dead or anything; second, I think McCarter, actually, might be kinda right on this (and I don't say that a heckuva lot) in the sense that, comparing the two with the logistics and realities of the situation over there, an office is the default 'less worse' option. It isn't the job of the commission to play developer, something noted by several of them during these discussions, but to see if the proposed plans warrant appropriate zoning changes, if they fit the neighborhood and environment and if this suits the long-term land use plan. Arguably, this plan is somewhat lacking, but the substantially worse earlier plans for a 19-house subdivision and the fact such a similar proposal might snake its way back toward them if the park is shot down for good are not better alternatives. It's a weird, frustrating situation for all parties involved, but it might become very necessary to ponder the pros and cons of this thing, and, again, go with the 'less worse' one.
- Yesterday, I had Andy Herod's announcement, and today I received word that David Hamilton has a blog. He's got a little bio information and announcement statement up, so check that out. I say again ... it's a shame we won't have a longer time for this campaign because it's two solid candidates for District Eight.
- The caveat is that spot zoning is bad as a long-term land use objective, but sometimes necessary on a case-by-case basis (hence the moniker I suppose). Still, I agree with Peter Goerig in the sense that it would be useful to take a look at some earlier problems that have resulted from the rezoning efforts over there (I remember having a conversation with Kelly Girtz that was something to this effect).
- Stanicek has his baseball preview up for Georgia - Part One and Part Two.
- You're darn right we need more frequent leaf-and-limb pickup. See, this is the beauty of local politics. The fact that something like attention to the details can pay off so much.
- Hopefully, we're progressing on this Sunday Sales thing. I'm not alone in my optimism as the Athens Banner-Herald says the same thing.
- One of the rumors going around regarding States McCarter's resignation, and mentioned in Blake's story, is that Tuesday's 9-1 vote by the Athens-Clarke County Commission to table a request for a developer to turn a few parcels of land at the front of Green Acres into an office park was the tipping point. McCarter was the lone dissenter of the bunch, and at a previous meeting, had argued that the office park plan wasn't perfect by any means, but was the best plan available. That, if the park plan wasn't approved, there was a very real chance the next proposal to come their way would be one that would drop a mini-subdivision in that slot. So I think two things to come away with from that specific issue ... first, the vote was tabled, so it isn't officially dead or anything; second, I think McCarter, actually, might be kinda right on this (and I don't say that a heckuva lot) in the sense that, comparing the two with the logistics and realities of the situation over there, an office is the default 'less worse' option. It isn't the job of the commission to play developer, something noted by several of them during these discussions, but to see if the proposed plans warrant appropriate zoning changes, if they fit the neighborhood and environment and if this suits the long-term land use plan. Arguably, this plan is somewhat lacking, but the substantially worse earlier plans for a 19-house subdivision and the fact such a similar proposal might snake its way back toward them if the park is shot down for good are not better alternatives. It's a weird, frustrating situation for all parties involved, but it might become very necessary to ponder the pros and cons of this thing, and, again, go with the 'less worse' one.
- Yesterday, I had Andy Herod's announcement, and today I received word that David Hamilton has a blog. He's got a little bio information and announcement statement up, so check that out. I say again ... it's a shame we won't have a longer time for this campaign because it's two solid candidates for District Eight.
- The caveat is that spot zoning is bad as a long-term land use objective, but sometimes necessary on a case-by-case basis (hence the moniker I suppose). Still, I agree with Peter Goerig in the sense that it would be useful to take a look at some earlier problems that have resulted from the rezoning efforts over there (I remember having a conversation with Kelly Girtz that was something to this effect).
- Stanicek has his baseball preview up for Georgia - Part One and Part Two.
- You're darn right we need more frequent leaf-and-limb pickup. See, this is the beauty of local politics. The fact that something like attention to the details can pay off so much.
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It's not really about aesthetics. See the historicboulevard.com site -- the FRESH video. It's about neighborhood character and integrating infill/additional development with existing housing.
Also, as to your house built your way, that's a myth that we cling to often, but it's not accurate. Legal types use the bundle of sticks analogy -- you "own" your house, but you can give away or negotiate the rights that appertain thereto and you still own it. So, you own your house -- but in Athens-Clarke County you don't own the right to build it 7 stories tall, covering the entirety of the lot, with grey market electrical and plumbing systems, and housing a brothel. The problem is that the current zoning doesn't address the issue of expanding old structures technically within the limit of the law, but in fact out of character with the surrounding neighborhood and its historic character.
Right Nicki, and no disagreements from me here. I was speaking in more of a philosophical sense. But, yes, I think governments should have the ability to regulate offer proper zoning and regulations, so please don't mistake me on that.
The problem is that the current zoning doesn't address the issue of expanding old structures technically within the limit of the law, but in fact out of character with the surrounding neighborhood and its historic character.
I'd be curious to see more explanation on this because I don't want to misinterpret you. Are you saying the problem is that the current code focuses on, in essence, things like aesthetics? I think I'm not reading you clear ...
No, the current code is legally defensible, which means that it concentrates on physical attributes for various reasons that are considered to benefit the public good. So, height, lot coverage, safety issues, etc. But when you have a home on a large lot, technically you can build a house that's under 3 stories and 36 feet high, adheres to the law regarding setbacks and proximity and takes up no more than 45% of your lot area -- but that doesn't mean that your house is appropriately sized to its neighbors. A great example is the house near Blvd. and Blvd. Heights which has a garage addition which is bigger than the house itself. Technically it's legal -- but it's not appropriate and it puts pressur on its neighbors.
A question posed to JMac, Nicki, and those who frequent these parts that know more about zoning than I do:
How do I go about finding out what's being built on a given parcel/parcels of property? There's some new construction down the street from me, and I'm trying to figure out what's going on. It's early, but it looks like someone is putting two houses on the back of a lot that has a small house farther to the front already.
Is this a go to the courthouse and dig around the deeds type of thing (I don't really see how a title search would reveal the information I'm looking for), or search for zoning/building permits (would that be with the Planning Commission?), or something else?
Any help is appreciated.
Darren
Darren,
Try this link: http://gaassessors.com/loadpage.php?refurl=http://qpublic.net/ga/clarke
Qpublic is the best source for quickly figuring out who owns it, how it's zoned, and what the county says it's worth. you'll have to drill down a little to the search function. The map is extremely useful.
Call the planning department @ 706-613-3515 and give them the address of the property and they'll be able to tell you the details.
Good luck.
David Hamilton
Thank you, David. That's a big help.
Darren
Yea, David!
I usually just make sure I've got the address right and call the Planning Commission or stop by and ask to see what's proposed. You might also be able to find a rezone in the newspaper or on the agenda to a previous planning commission meeting. And of course permits are usually published in the paper -- so you should be able to find that information easily, though it's not as useful as seeing plans.
Thank you, too, Nicki.
I found some very useful information about who owns what, how some lots have been subdivided, etc., on the site David recommended, but I'll probably make a trip to the planning dept to see if I can see plans.
Thanks again, y'all.
Darren
WHAAAAT?! David Lynn? DAVID LYNN of all people wants to be the one who decides how other people use their property that they paid for with their money?
I'm in a regular state of shock. Who would have expected that from David?!!
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